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NHL.com correspondant John Manasso refers to Chris Osgood as a future Hall of Famer, your thoughts?

Link:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=523059&navid=DL|NHL|home

Direct quote:

"Babcock made the seemingly bold statement after the game that Howard has given the team its best goaltending in his five seasons as Detroit's coach. That group includes Manny Legace (37 wins, 2.19 GAA, .915 save percentage in 2005-06), as well as future Hall of Famers Dominik Hasek and Chris Osgood, who won Detroit the Stanley Cup in 2008."

Is this a radical claim, to refer to Osgood as a Future Hall of Famer?

There are those who believe he should get in, but this columnist seemed pretty sure.

I could argue the point all day, but when somebody on NHL.com says it, it may be more appropriate to shed light on the subject.

Do you agree or disagree with that statement, and why?

John Manasso has also referred to Claude Lemieux, Dale Hunter, Doug Gilmour, and Kevin Hatcher as future Hall of Famers in the past............so I'm not going to rely on his word................however, here's some other analysis from August 2009

There are three goaltenders who will go in before him

Martin Brodeur, Dominik Hasek, and Ed Belfour

Of those 4 goaltenders, let's look at their careers
Vezinas Finalist (the award voted on by NHL GMs)
10 Dominik Hasek (6 - 0 - 4)
9 Martin Brodeur (4-3-2)
7 Ed Belfour (2-1-4)
1 Chris Osgood (0-1-0)

So, the GMs have NEVER thought that Osgood was the best goaltender, and only ONCE in his career have they felt he was top 3

International Competition (players picked for these tend to hand picked by GMs)
Dominik Hasek
1 Olympic Gold Medal (1998)
1 Olympic Bronze Medal (2006)
1 World Championship Gold Medal (1996)
3 World Championship Bronze Medals (1987, 1989, 1990)
Represented Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic at 5 Canada Cup/World Cups, 5 Olympics, and 6 World Championships

Martin Brodeur
1 Olympic Gold Medal (2002)
1 Canada Cup/World Cup Gold Medal (2004)
1 Canada Cup/World Cup Silver Medal (1996)
2 World Championship Silver Medals (1996, 2005)

Ed Belfour
1 Olympic Gold Medal (2002)
2 Canada Cup/World Cup Gold Medals (1991, 2004)

Chris Osgood
- has never been selected to represent Canada

Again, the powers that be have never felt Osgood worthy of International Competition, while these others have represented their countries (and won) numerous times.

Total Awards
13 Hasek (Pearson (98, 98), Hart (97, 98), Vezina (94, 95, 97, 98, 99, 01), Jennings (94, 01, 08)
9 Brodeur (Calder (94), Vezina (03, 04, 07, 08), Jennings (97, 98, 03, 04)
8 Belfour (Calder (91), Vezina (91, 93), Jennings (91, 93, 95, 99), Crozier (00))
2 Osgood (Jennings (96, 08)

Note - Osgood has NEVER won an individual award.

40 Win Seasons
7 Brodeur
2 Belfour
1 Hasek
0 Osgood

Again - on the bottom

30 Win Seasons
12 Brodeur
9 Belfour
7 Hasek
6 Osgood

Again - on the bottom

GAA Titles
2 Belfour (92, 98)
2 Hasek (94, 95)
1 Brodeur (97)
1 Osgood (08)

Again - on the bottom

Shutout Titles
4 Brodeur
4 Hasek
4 Belfour
0 Osgood

I'm sensing a pattern here

Career Post Season All-Star Teams
7 Brodeur (03, 04, 07 1st Team, 97, 98, 06, 08 2nd Team)
6 Hasek (94, 95, 97, 98, 99, 01 1st Team)
3 Belfour (91, 93 1st Team, 95 2nd Team)
1 Osgood (96 2nd Team)

The pattern continues

Career Shutouts
101 Brodeur (1 every 9.89 games)
81 Hasek (1 every 9.07 games)
76 Belfour (1 every 12.67 games)
49 Osgood (1 every 14.49 games - which is better than Patrick Roy)

Career Wins
557 Brodeur
484 Belfour
389 Osgood
389 Hasek

Career GAA
2.20 Hasek
2.21 Brodeur
2.47 Osgood
2.50 Belfour

Career Save Percentage
0.922 Hasek
0.914 Brodeur
0.9064 Belfour
0.9058 Osgood

The Comparisons - Winning Percentage
Teams that Brodeur has played on have a winning percentage of 0.617 (699-400-179). Brodeur is at 0.631 (557-299-128). So, Brodeur's teams have played worse when he's not playing (142-101-51 or 0.569). A difference of +0.062

Teams that Hasek played on had a winning percentage of 0.594 (670-429-179). Hasek is at 0.617 (389-223-95). So, Hasek's teams have played worse when he's not playing (281-206-84 or 0.566). A difference of +0.051

Teams that Belfour played on had a winning percentage of 0.573 (681-481-200). Belfour is at 0.589 (484-320-125). So, Belfour's teams have played worse when he's not playing (197-161-75 or 0.542). A difference of +0.047

Teams that Osgood has played on have a winning percentage of 0.646 (693-344-161). Osgood is at 0.636 (389-204-89). So, Osgood's teams play better when he's not in net (304-140-72 or 0.659)

So, out of these 4, 3 of them made their teams better - 1 of them (Osgood) did not.

Also, if Stanley Cups got you into the Hall of Fame - Andy Moog and Michel Larocque would be there! (and Larocque has several Vezinas)

When players are selected for ther Hall of Fame, they are compared against their peers. Osgood fails against his peers.

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